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Greg - 2006-09-25 15:20:17
You must be very busy at work today. I feel your pain. No seriously, Bill did a great job with Chris Wallace. More people need to stand up to the disinformation and smear campaigns and get right in the faces of the perps and say, NONSENSE! Chris Wallace is a fat turd. Of course that's another area where Bill has one up on me... I would have ended it with, "And you're fat too, Chris."
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iwombat - 2006-09-25 15:28:16
Yeah, "how not to let someone else define the debate" by Bill Clinton, but, yeah, I've never hit anyone in my life, but I've seen a lot of guy flicks, so I woulda still liked it if Bill grabbed him by the collar and pushed him up against the wall, and made him say he was sorry...
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Sharps - 2006-09-25 15:41:45
When Big Bill told him "yeah you sit there with that little smirk on your face and you think you're so clever" I sprayed a mouthful of cornflakes across the room.
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2fs - 2006-09-25 17:19:31
You know, Clinton was always dissed as "insincere," poll-watching etc. If he was insincere here, he deserves an Emmy. Of course, he's no longer in office: what's the deal with him and Gore, now that they're not (apparently) running for office, they're about a hundred times more impressive. I'm not entirely sure what that's a sad, sad comment on - but it surely is one.
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iwombat - 2006-09-25 17:59:24
It seems to me that politics is the dismal art, it's probably not possible to be a sincere, successful politician on the national stage. But some of the people who get into it, and slog through it, really did it for the right reasons, and when they are released, freed from it's grip, they regain their amateur (one who does what one does, for love) status.
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Greg - 2006-09-25 23:18:56
Part of me doesn't want to believe that some of these huge corporate gollums, like Bill Gates, Warren Buffett and some others like those we saw rallied around Bill Clinton last week may actually doing more good than our combined governments and fractured grass roots movements (and I will only say SOME of them). Maybe the world has gotten just that strange... this is of course an underdeveloped thought... thinking aloud. Re: Bill Clinton's approach to extremist groups though--Ultimately it cost less innocent lives than anything since. The latest House Intelligence Estimate is pretty darned bleak, from my understanding, the general consensus being that the War On Iraq has serioulsy worsened existing problems. My only response is DUH!
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Paula - 2006-09-26 09:10:16
now that they're not (apparently) running for office, they're about a hundred times more impressive
It makes sense--now they can do their real work w/o having to worry so much about winning people over. In Clinton's case, thank god for term limits...he can be our new Jimmy Carter (best ex-pres ever!)
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Chris - 2006-09-26 10:02:51
Hagiographic adulation for Jimmy Carter. Have you read his poems? Have you?
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amatt - 2006-09-26 10:16:09
Ted Turner was on Letterman last week. When David said that Branson was "donating" billions of dollars, Ted said something like, "let's get this straight, he's not donating money, he's investing money because he will make a lot more money out of this then he's putting into it." Everything is about money. I'm not saying his heart is not in the right place, but there are always others motives that we do not take into consideration.
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jon - 2006-09-26 10:51:00
There was a lengthy and excellent profile of Bill Clinton's post-presidential activities in the New Yorker recently (9-18-06). The author suggests that Clinton's motives for his post-presidential charitable activities include his sincere desire to make up for his failure while in office to address the genocide in Rwanda (and the AIDS epidemic). Also, he is maintaining a high public profile on issues such as AIDS and childhood obesity that aren't going to hurt Hilary should she choose to run for president.
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Greg - 2006-09-26 11:20:28
Amatt and Jon--I'm certain that all of these men are engaged in what is commonly called Enlightened Self Interest. There can definitely be widespread benefits to these activities, moreso than the malevolent self interest for example, of oil barons participating in writing foreign policy for the Middle East. I'm still not comfortable that it has fallen into the hands of so few... I guess what I'm saying is that I'd rather see all these causes become our sole domestic and foreign policy as a nation.
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Paula - 2006-09-26 11:36:58
When all is said and done, if people are contributing positively to society, I have no problem with their motives.
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amatt - 2006-09-26 11:45:27
I agree Paula. You can contribute positively AND make money. Not a problem here.
Ted probably said it 'cuz he didn't think of it first!
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