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grigorss - 2007-04-28 16:40:28
She's playing at the Roxy this wednesday out here in La-La Land (mostly tunes from the cover album, I gather), and I was thinking about going, but now I think I'll just wait for her next appearance -- if not the next album
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Paula - 2007-04-28 17:04:00
Just to clarify--I think this would be an excellent live show! It's the foreverness of the album that seems unnecessary.
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Greg - 2007-04-29 07:59:59
>>>I think only a rabid fan (of Patti, her persona, her flesh and blood, as opposed to her music) would really wanna hear this again.<<<
Count me in on that one.
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Bina - 2007-04-29 23:50:10
There are going to be a lot of vampires at her show, then.
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Bina - 2007-04-29 23:50:09
There are going to be a lot of vampires at her show, then.
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Juvenile Bob - 2007-05-01 01:51:41
Not to be all negative and stuff, but I have never understood Patti Smith's appeal whatsoever. Belinda Carlile(sp?) is more of a punk (hey, she was in the Germs ver' briefly... and LD's a good punk tune, which is more than Patti's done for me... though I hear tell her band was good). Her Patty Hearst song and her White Nigger song are two of the stupidest songs I have heared, and she hasn't done any of the cleverest, so as far as I'm concerned, she should probably only be allowed to do covers... maybe of Guns N Roses songs. I mean, I think Courtney friggin Love is a better lyricist. (But maybe I'm rabid.)
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Paula - 2007-05-01 09:51:06
I am not the biggest Patti Smith fan, but I do definitely get why she's special. She balances a lot of opposing forces and just exudes a kind of defiant grace. (Ugh, sorry--that's some bad poetry there).
All that said, I also completely understand why someone would not like her music or persona--she can be a little bit much. Plus, we're kind of used to her schtick now--can you imagine beholding Patti Smith in 1975?
(The point of my original post was that her thang is not singing, thus an album of covers where the arrangements are pretty similar to the originals, just seems like listening to an album of your friend doing karaoke.)
Patty Hearst song?
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Greg - 2007-05-01 10:42:48
You'd think that people woulda had enough of silly love songs... I had, for the most part, by the time I was 13. That's where people like Patti Smith came in. Stupidest songs ever? I simply don't get that at all. Not that they're dated at all, but look at the time they came out... What did we have? Cat Stevens and James Taylor and MOR radio drones? Paul Simon telling us to slip it up the back? Paul McCartney telling us someone's at the door? 40 minute guitar wankery? The rock "gods" of the 60s were filthy rich, stoned and stupid, a bunch of effete elite dorks... Thank God for Patti Smith!
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grigorss - 2007-05-01 12:57:22
Appropo of nothing dept. -- subsection/ non sequitur: Ms. Smith is a huge fan of the writings of H.P. Lovecraft (going so far as to dedicate a song to him at a show I once attended). Don't believe it? Try googling their names and see what turns up.
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grigorss - 2007-05-01 13:07:07
A propo of nothing dept. -- subsection/non sequitur: Ms. Smith is a huge fan of the writings of H.P. Lovecraft (going so far as to dedicate a song to him at show I once attended). Don't believe it? Try googling their names and see what turns up.
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greg - 2007-05-01 14:00:06
Was it HP Lovecraft or Michael Moorcock that had the Hawkwind affiliation?
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Paula - 2007-05-01 15:02:33
Hey, don't be hatin' on Cat, JT, and Paul Simon. All great songwriters, IMO.
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Tom G. - 2007-05-01 15:20:12
Hey, don't be hatin' on Cat, JT, and Paul Simon. All great songwriters, IMO.
Agreed. Greg, perhaps you meant to rail at the state of 70's RADIO which just started to become automated and standardized, pushing for sameness and perceived market demand. Cat, JT and Paul can write great songs, but if you hear the same stuff over and over again no matter how great it starts to sound not so great.
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Paula - 2007-05-01 16:23:55
Tom G., you should be a diplomat or marriage counselor. Or professional assuager of bad feelings about rock stars.
Are you?
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Greg the Hater - 2007-05-01 16:26:58
I think Cat and Paul have written some great songs. Let me rephrase that--They've written songs I've loved. James Taylor always made me gag. As for the former two--the songs played on repeat on the radio were utter CRAP! McCartney had some stinkers also, that would not have been tolerated were he not King Bug. Tom, I agree, 70s radio was like a recurring sore. Predominantly bad pop and insipid California soft rock. Again, thank God for Patti Smith.
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Greg the Hater - 2007-05-01 16:37:22
For the record, I'd rather listen to anything by any of the Tapioca Trio than Roundabout by Yes.
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Greg - 2007-05-01 16:43:08
Re bad radio: Most of my favorite artists, people I adore... have songs that I can't stand. The difference is you never ever ever hear their worst songs on the radio. Conversely, there are artists who I don't care for at all whose best songs are never ever ever on the radio.
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Tom G. (The Assuager) - 2007-05-01 17:57:15
For reasons we shan't go into right now, I find the idea of ME being a marriage counselor...astounding. However, if there's money in bad-feelings-about-rock-stars-assuagin' I do think I could be good a that. Greg, I thought I had you sufficiently assuaged, then you go and dis one of my all-time favs "Roundabout". My work is NEVER done!
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Greg (Just The Ass) - 2007-05-01 18:23:07
Um... sorry. Believe me, I have a houseful of stuff that I'd be mortified if my friends new I listened to, let alone owned. There are a slew of bands though that I could never "get." Yes, Rush, hell, most of Prog Rock, The Eagles, most of the output from Birds refugees... the list goes on. And if I never heard Supertramp again, going back to 70s soft rock, I'd be perfectly fine.
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