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grigorss - 2008-07-16 15:19:18
The Hard Sell show tour vid reminded me that it's been years (I'm thinkin' about 3) since I last saw something at the Bowl -- I may have to fix that this summer season...
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Paula - 2008-07-16 15:50:43
Grigorss, what'd'ya see at the Bowl?
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Mr Lojban - 2008-07-16 18:16:11
OK I just read the linked, detailed biographical essay on Richard III and nowhere does it mention the deaths of his minor nephews in the Tower. That's some kind of crazy. OK his reputation has been thoroughly sullied by Shakespeare, and the boys' murder was political, & no one really knows what happened to them, but still, there's an elephant in the essayist's room.
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Paula - 2008-07-16 20:09:42
That's the controversy--did he really murder those kids? Some say "no."
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Mr Lojban - 2008-07-16 20:51:12
Indeed. And really there's no way to know. Richard had the most at stake. In any event, writing such an essay without mentioning their deaths, & asserting their illegitimacy with a wholly dishonest certainty (there's no way to know about that either), seems like blind partisanship or knee-jerk revisionism to me. I wonder what their motives are. Who's out there defending the memory and honor of Empress Matilda?
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Paula - 2008-07-17 16:22:03
Josephine Tey suspects that the real murderer is (spoiler! spoiler!) this guy! And she gives darn compelling evidence, too! All wrapped up in fiction, but still.
As for Empress Matilda...well, I have no comeback for that'un.
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Mr Lojban - 2008-07-17 17:50:43
Yeah I ought to read it. I'm no expert in the area. I understand why those two needed to be rendered harmless. I wonder whether there was another way to do it (Italian monastery?), but those times again were particularly brutal in England.
Empress Matilda was kinda the first queen regnant of England, but being a woman, among other considerations, made it hard for her to consolidate support, & her cousin Stephen deposed her & chased her around the island her entire reign. Eventually they cut a deal & her son succeeded Stephen & later married Katharine Hepburn.
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Paula - 2008-07-17 19:30:41
And then the son is mean to Jane Fonda, and everyone is senile and shaky and--"the loons! the loons, remember the loons?!"
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