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Bina - 2008-11-06 16:45:11
I've always wondered about whether people prefer the use of their dominant hand (har!)or not to masturbate. They should study how righties, lefties, and the ambidextrous do it.
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amatt - 2008-11-06 17:16:28
I'm optimistic, but as with any politician, I'm exercising caution.
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MacGregor - 2008-11-06 17:19:16
Amatt??? You masturbate with politicians? You'd better be cautious!
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Paula - 2008-11-06 17:26:11
My joy is not even about Obama-qua-Obama at this point--it's about the state of optimism itself and how it changes people.
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amatt - 2008-11-06 17:41:13
Exactly! Optimism is infectious!
Change starts with the people, and this can only be a step upward.
Can't wait to view that masturbation site...
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Bina - 2008-11-06 17:43:25
It's very boring, Andy, but if you want to see a live stream of people masturbating, go to this URL:
http://cdn1.ustream.tv/swf/4/viewer.45.swf?cid=317016
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Bina - 2008-11-06 17:44:36
Or rather, click here .
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MacGregor - 2008-11-06 19:29:18
Um... Net Nanny prohibits be from viewing live streams... and live streams sounds like a very bad pun to me.
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grigorss - 2008-11-06 21:08:30
Thanks for the many informative links today -- although at least one of the subject matters covered is something I feel I've thoroughly researched on my own...
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SF Eli - 2008-11-07 03:05:41
I feel happy. Cautious, but happy. Obama is a moderate Democrat, not nearly radical enough for my tastes, but he is young and dynamic and hopefully the enthusiasm and optimism will last and motivate others to get involved and make the change they want to see in the world instead of lying down and giving up before they even try. The anger and personal insult of being a declared a second class citizen, then an equal, then demoted again is working my nerves. But I am an optimist and know that gay people will not give up or go away and eventually all the old bigots will die and every day they are being replaced by more open-minded young people. I've already been married with or without the "legal" right...long story, but my marriage proves that the marriage protection laws are ridiculous. Anyway, get me started...
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Bina - 2008-11-07 06:07:43
Eli, would civil unions as Obama advocates with the exact same rights as married couples satisfy the gay community or do they prefer marriage the same way as heterosexual couples? I'm not educated enough on the topic to know which is better.
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SF Eli - 2008-11-07 17:49:45
Hey Bina, Thanks for asking. Sorry, Paula, for hijacking your blurg. I'll speak for myself, rather than for gays across the land. And I am a bisexual transgendered man. Even some of the gays don't want to include me in "their" fight for equal rights. To bad, I fight hard for everyone, and don't worry that there is only a small amount of freedom to go around. There are a lot of varying opinions and divisions in the LGBTQ crowd. Just by changing my driver's license from F to M allowed me to get married to a woman...I'm the same person, just a different driver's license and a beard. same person, very legal marriage and very expensive legal divorce a few years later. To me the fight for marriage equality is a symbol. Separate but equal is not acceptable. (Obama, of all of our leaders, should be pretty clear on that.) Church and state are supposed to be separate...churches should have the right to not allow people to get married in their faith if they want to continue to be bigots, but state marriages and all the attendant rights and responsibilities should be completely equal to the letter for gays and not gays, including what they are called. Marriage, civil marriage, I don't care, as long as the name and rights are exactly the same for whoever is doing the marrying. Marriage equality is just one piece in the puzzle...equal protection under the law, equal treatment at work, at home, at school. In my opinion, there should be one worldwide law that no one can be treated as a second class citizen, ever, under any circumstance. But for now, I guess I will accept marriage equality as a start towards that goal.
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Paula - 2008-11-07 18:06:45
Thanks, Eli.
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Bina - 2008-11-08 02:38:31
Thanks, Eli! That makes sense. I wish you luck in your battle.
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