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Baby Party - 2005-01-04 15:51:28
I have NEVER had a therapist that hip. That is very cool.
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Sharps - 2005-01-04 16:16:54
Yeah, me neither. But on a similar note, today I was trying to explain to one of my bosses a frustrating thing about my job which I described as "feeling the elephant", and he got it, which really helped move the convo along. I thought, Not bad, for a lawyer.
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Paula - 2005-01-04 16:20:14
Oh, that's a good'un.
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Flasshe - 2005-01-04 16:21:18
That's probably why I don't have a therapist even though I probably need one - I don't think I'd be able to find one who has a hip music quotient.
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Sharps - 2005-01-04 17:20:15
Thanks for the link, Bink. Interesting I didn't know about the Saxe poem. He got the fable right, but I don't read the moral quite that way. I have more of a transcendental take on it, which is that we can't know the true nature of reality by only experiencing our conscious, daily lives. Now I need to go see my Yogi orthodontist to have some transcendental work done.
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Joe - 2005-01-04 19:53:53
I see it as "no one has enough information yet to see the whole of the problem" - "we need more info before we see the whole elephant".
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2fs - 2005-01-05 00:03:08
But no one ever asks the elephant what it thinks about all these folks trying to figure out what it is.
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Paula - 2005-01-05 13:37:22
I think the elephant prefers being felt up to being the thing in the "middle of the room" that no one wants to talk about.
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Flasshe - 2005-01-05 14:00:46
*Chortle*
Even if it was being felt up by a committee?
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anne - 2005-01-05 14:57:06
My shrink is an accomplished pianist who was in a trio with a bassist who has played with Ween, Moe Tucker, Chris Harford (one degree of separation from Sharps as they were both bandmates of Hub Moore). Her tastes seem to run more "jam-band" than mine, but still, respekt!
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Sharps - 2005-01-05 15:51:49
Come to think of it, all those morals are pretty much saying the same thing.
The thing in the middle of the room is an 800-lb. gorilla, not an elephant. The thing with feathers is Uncle Saul, who is getting treatment. Anne, we must have a degree of separation of negative value! (Which is the mathematic translation of this: Dame: "Hold me closer." Groucho: "If I was any closer, I'd be behind you.")
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Paula - 2005-01-05 16:14:39
Sharps:
The thing in the middle of the room is an 800-lb. gorilla, not an elephant
Wha? No, it's an elephant
Anne: that's pretty cool!
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Sharps - 2005-01-05 17:21:21
Hmph. I guess you're right. According to the internets, the 800-lb. gorilla seems to be a metaphor for a giant force to be reckoned with. Geez, I also screwed up the Woody Allen quote, which should read : "How wrong Emily Dickinson was! Hope is not the 'thing with feathers.' The thing with feathers has turned out be my nephew. I must take him to a specialist in Zurich."
Come to think of it, I believe the first time I heard the 'elephant in the room' metaphor was from a shrink I once had--which brings this tangent full circle!!
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