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Bob - 2004-08-01 19:12:44
Some of the dirty versions (one of which may be the original) of "The Old Chisolm Trail" strike me as cleverer (in their own dumb way) than "Jerry the Junker" and "Minnie the Mooch". In fact, Mojo Nixon's "Tie My Pecker to my Leg" is basically just one of those 100+ year old versions, with "My girl's so fine I wanna suck her daddy's...." thrown in to update it. But of course those cowboys had plenty of time to think up goofy verses. Still, they were also less parochial, at first, than city folk.
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Bob - 2004-08-02 00:50:06
In other words, they had to have something sufficiently silly to say about sex and beastiality, to get a rise out of one-another;; they weren't a city full of resident tourists given to responding to the New York Post equivalent of lyrics ("Drugs! Prostitution!" ...That's all, folks!). [Not to pick on New Yorkers or anything;; that rube-appeal holds just as true of Santa Monica/Dogtown's famous cultural exports, f'rinstance.]
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Paula - 2004-08-02 11:41:43
I usually understand ya, Bob, but I'm not following ya here. Can you explain?
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Bob - 2004-08-13 15:13:46
Let's see, "there are known unknowns and there are".... Not following WHICH you're not following, but I'll offer the following. The Sean Penn narrated quasi-documentary "Dogtown and Z-Boys" is a parochial propoganda piece that overstates the importance of a couple of briefly great Santa Monica skateboarders, (who didn't originate anything that wouldn't have happened within months anyway), gives short shrift to another, because he became a golfer instead of a convict, and throws out a lot of things like "dispossed" that are calculated to get an "oooh", and have, from the rubes. Sort of like the song "Sister Ray", in the "Drugs!" vein. Samuel Coleridge, or even "Tie my Pecker to a Tree", it ain't.
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"Oooh"ps - 2004-08-13 15:16:59
Actually, I can't say that "dispossed" would get any "oooh"'s;; that should be "dispossessed".
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Bob - 2004-08-13 15:39:39
And, to be fair, the once great Dogtown skater who was convicted for helping to kick a gay guy to death (which wasn't even mentioned in that movie) and then for selling drugs, (ooh, he was interviewed in jail), has gotten out and gotten better sense, and is doing some "basic" pool skating moves with very rare form and intensity, at forty. But he spent half his time in Hawaii growing up, where they beat some sense into ya if you try to be a unfleshed-out hype machine.
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Bob - 2004-08-14 01:29:50
I guess I'm just objecting to buzzwords and buzztopics and buzzing, as opposed to working at creativity. If I knew how to post a link you could compare those verses from "Com'an' Tie My Pecker to a Tree", or some such version of "The Old Chisolm Trail", to "Minnie the Moocher" and "Jerry the Junker". But the fact that Cab was probably creating his songs for local and visiting tourists in a lounge, and the earliest, undomesticated cowboys were creating their lyrics in a desperate attempt to amuse themselves and each other, probably explains the difference. I'm sure if Cab, and the Velvet Underground, and Tony Alva, had been desperately silly cowboys, New York and Santa Monica would be richer for it.
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Bob - 2004-08-18 15:53:38
Well, hey, since I lack linkiness... the (possibly original) version of "The Old Chisolm Trail" went something like this:: Well, I woke up in the mornin', on the Old Chisolm Trail/With my pecker in my hand, and a cow by the tail/Com'an' tie my pecker to a tree, To a tree, Tie my pecker to a tree//Well the first time I see'd her, she was floatin' downstream/With her a** blowin' bubbles, and her c*** flowin' cream/Com'an' tie my.....//Well I f***** her standin' up and I f***** her lyin'/And if she'd had wings, I'da f***** her flyin'/Com'an' tie my.....//Well, the last time I see'd her, and I ain't see'd her since/She was jackin' off a bull through a barbed wire fence.... [Anyway, even if it's not your cup of tea, ya gotta admit it's buzzword free.]
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Bob - 2004-08-18 16:41:23
And actually, that should read "the ol' Chisolm trail", which makes sense, since that's something they might have called it halfway through a cattle drive, whereas "The Old Chisolm Trail", uh-uh.
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